Jason Porter, an ordained minister, and pastor of 1C22 church was born and raised in the state of Kansas. From May of 1996 until April of 1998 he was a full-time traveling youth evangelist and musician with Fish Ministries/Fish TV. This ministry consisted of holding youth camps and conferences across the country.
Believing the LORD would have him operate in a more local capacity, Jason ceased traveling and began ministering as a worship leader for various congregations.
In 2007 he founded “Abrahams Promise”, a charity for the poor, orphans, widows, and victims of terror in Israel. In 2008 Jason was finally released to plant “1C22” as a nondenominational congregation emphasizing the Kingdom Priority of making disciples through the learning of scriptures, with an emphasis on prayer, and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Jason Porter is also a Minister of music and has been producing and recording independent records for several years under the artist name of “Benyahu”.
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Brad Burrow (00:00:01):
Welcome to In a World With Real Media. I’m your host, Brad Burrow. In this podcast, we’ll dive into the lives of the most successful people in business. We’ll learn how they overcame adversity, took advantage of opportunities and learned from their experiences. Learn from our experts. Get inspired, then go live your story. It’s in a world with real media. Hello and welcome to the In A World With Real Media Podcast. I’m Brad Burrow. Today we have Jason Porter from one C two two, is that how you say it? One C, two, two Church.
Jason Porter (00:00:38):
That’s correct.
Brad Burrow (00:00:39):
And I’ve been to your church a couple times and my wife and I were just blown away at kind of the depth that you go into when you’re preaching and talking to people and just how much, it’s like you got to focus and listen because you’re going to learn a lot at your church. So we really, really enjoyed it and I appreciate you coming to be on the podcast. I wanted to get you on the podcast so people could come know you a little bit more and know what you’re doing
Jason Porter (00:01:06):
Well, hallelujah. Praise God. Thank you for having me.
Brad Burrow (00:01:08):
Yeah, yeah, really cool. So you were born and raised in Kansas?
Jason Porter (00:01:12):
Yes, sir.
Brad Burrow (00:01:13):
Whereabouts in Kansas?
Jason Porter (00:01:14):
Well, here’s the irony. When you were asking me earlier about where I live and stuff like that, I was adopted when I was four years old. And so when I was brought out of the foster system, hallelujah. Praise God. The first place God dropped me off was right down the street off of 91st and Reader.
Brad Burrow (00:01:31):
Is that right?
Jason Porter (00:01:32):
So about a year later, we moved a couple blocks down to Larson off of 91st. So this whole street
Brad Burrow (00:01:40):
Just down the street from us, we’re right on 91st Street.
Jason Porter (00:01:42):
Yes. So I grew up in list. When I say I’m a son of this soil, literally my whole formative years was right here. So everything, it’s Westridge used to be Hillcrest. That was the middle school. I went to Apache Elementary School. That was the great elementary school I went to. So this whole block, 91st Street has multiple memories.
Brad Burrow (00:02:10):
And now your church is in this within blocks
Jason Porter (00:02:12):
Of that. Yeah. God brought me back here kicking and screaming. We actually started on Missouri side. I was like, listen, the last thing Johnson County needs is another church, and I want to be where the action was with the homeless and the addicts and stuff like that. And so that’s kind of interesting how God brought me back here to my Jerusalem, so to speak.
Brad Burrow (00:02:35):
Yeah, really amazing. Had no idea about any of that, and you could walk right down the street and get to where you were dropped off.
Jason Porter (00:02:41):
Yep.
Brad Burrow (00:02:42):
Do you remember any of that?
Jason Porter (00:02:43):
Yeah, ironically, I remember all of it as far as the adoption process. I can remember what I call my first memory when I was, because I had two foster homes and I had actually a group home that I had before I was adopted. And so my first memory was in the group home where the kids were mean to me and locking me in a closet. That’s literally what I remember my first memory
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Were.
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Then my other memories had to do with my first foster home because I was actually, my first tobacco and beer was my first foster home. And my memory were waking up vomiting and throwing because that was the conditions I was in this scar, not because of anything they did. This scar was from the first foster home because there’s these twins across the street. I don’t know if this is what you
Brad Burrow (00:03:44):
Want.
Jason Porter (00:03:45):
So because of these twins across the street, they would have, they’d have what was called the view master. I don’t know if anybody remembers the view master, the thing you, I’ve dated myself.
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So with all that said, I was like, oh, go across the street, hang out with the twins, see the Viewmaster, whatever. Well, every time we would go outside to play, they would run out to the front door, but they had this steep stairwell and they would slide down this banner store next to it, and I would never do it until one day. But I’m like, you know what? I’m going to go ahead and make this happen. And I did it. And instead of going this way, I went over and fell splat on the ground. I remember going to the hospital, I remember the blue cloth thing they put over when they’re stitching up thing for whatever reason. That’s one of the things that God has always blessed me with is a, I think almost supernatural memory because I just really, really just vividly remember a whole
Brad Burrow (00:04:36):
Lot. Why do you think he has you remember that?
Jason Porter (00:04:41):
I would say it was preparation for claiming what I call a promise, and John, it says that the Holy Spirit will bring back all things your remembrance. And so I’ve always kind of really, once I was born again, I really understood, I do believe there was a spiritual promise connected to a lot of people are like, I don’t remember this, or I don’t remember that, and stuff like that. And I’d like that’s, that’s never been one of my, I got struggles, faults like anybody else. But the one thing that God has always told me is the promise in that word as far as the memory is that I think it’s because a lot of the mistakes people make is because they forget certain things.
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But what is the commandment always? He’s always telling you it’s a core is a core. It’s a Hebrew word for remember, he’s always saying, remember what God did. Remember what Yahweh did when he brought you out of you. Remember what God did. And I think a lot of the trials that people have, whether it’s entitlement with God or entitlement with people is because they forget what God actually did and they either replace those memories with false memories or they just walk in this ungrateful state. So I think God in general had me remember things that unquote were trivial or that weren’t necessarily kingdom minded, but for a larger revelation of, well, remembering all things is just, this is going to now include the spiritual reality of how God has brought me through things.
Brad Burrow (00:06:12):
We forget things so easy. I mean, I can look back on my life and God’s done so many things in my life, and unless you write it down or who was it that would make a monument? Abraham would make a monument to remember what God had done.
Jason Porter (00:06:29):
So the stone, there was the Joshua who made set the stones to make when they crossed over. So
Brad Burrow (00:06:34):
Yeah, so you could remember, right?
Jason Porter (00:06:37):
Yes. And
Brad Burrow (00:06:37):
We forget so easily.
Jason Porter (00:06:39):
Yes. Sorry, not to interrupt, but the altars like Abraham, so the altars also represent making a memorial un God as well. So yes, that is Abraham making an altar for that.
Brad Burrow (00:06:50):
And we need to write that stuff down. I mean, if you’re a Christian, you’ve been through anything, you’ve got to realize that God’s hearing your prayers, he’s answering your prayers. And I think that the older you get in your faith, or for me, it’s like still going through trials. You look back and say, well, he brought me through that, so he’s going to bring me through this.
Jason Porter (00:07:11):
Yes. Faith building exercises is what I like to call it. Like
Brad Burrow (00:07:15):
Muscles.
Jason Porter (00:07:15):
Yes, exactly. Faith is a muscle and you have to exercise
Brad Burrow (00:07:19):
It. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. I can tell we’re going to have a great time today. Tell me about a full-time traveling youth evangelist. I was reading that’s on your website, fish Ministries and Fish tv. I feel like I remember
Jason Porter (00:07:34):
That for some reason, this is a crazy story. A lot of the connections and friendships and relationships I still have today. It actually starts with I met, I used to work at, okay, Oak Park Mall. That’s another thing right there. I used to work 10 years of my life as at Oak Park Mall, original Pizza,
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Billy
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Depot, there was a music land there, sunglass Hut, and that’s what I was known for, just working at the mall. So the year before I got saved, that’s when I really, really started taking music seriously or really desiring music, let’s put it that way. And there’s an individual named Kirk Merritt who worked, there’s a little studio recording studio across from the mall because the movie theater, sorry, not, it was actually in the mall. There used to be the movie theater in the mall
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And
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Across from the movie theater, there’s a recording studio where a friend of mine named Kirk Merrit worked there. So he knew I was trying to do my little demos, whatever. So he just kind of helped me out. And so after I got saved, then he invited me to meet these two individuals, Greg and Brad Edmondson, these brothers, they’re from here, and they had a show called Fish tv. So all of the Christian music video shows that people were watching, Greg and Brad were pioneers in this stuff and once again representing Kansas. And so I would just hang out with them. So I was doing my little demos and then Greg, who was a phenomenal vocalist by the way, he would listen to my critique me like, well, he kind of maybe change this, whatever.
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And so as that developed, then one day Kirk says, Hey man, I want you to meet this other guy because there’s a band called Fish. They had a band that was connected to fish ministry. And so that was an individual named Troy Covey who came in town and Fish Ministries was the connection with fish TV and what the ministry would do as a youth evangelism ministry where we’d go across the country youth camps, we’d have conferences and just minister the gospel through song and the word and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. So he says, come to this rehearsal. And so I just come to this rehearsal and I beat all of the fellas. There’s people that you would know, but at the same time, it was just from that day on. Next thing I know, I’m on the road traveling with them. And we had some very powerful times with ministry and stuff like that. But it was that, it was 19 96, 19 97. It was those two years when God was really dealing with me about what is music? What is ministry? What is music ministry? Are they compatible? So I really needed those two years to really get the confirmation of what I was ultimately confirmed and called to do.
Brad Burrow (00:10:41):
Yeah. So how long were you out on the road with
Jason Porter (00:10:44):
Them? Well, I was literally like two years, so
Brad Burrow (00:10:46):
Two full years.
Jason Porter (00:10:48):
And that’s what it was, is full-time, just state to state. So all my travel, I’ve been to pretty much every state except Alaska and some of, I got friends in California this day that I still talk to and stuff like that. So it was a very pivotal time for me to really lock some things in.
Brad Burrow (00:11:09):
Yeah, amazing Abraham’s
Jason Porter (00:11:12):
Promise. Tell me about that. So you got one Corinthians 15, you got one Corinthians, you got Romans where what they’re talking about, Paul says, if the Gentiles were blessed by spiritual things that also don’t forget the Jewish believers and that need help with carnal things, with material things. And so he’d literally take offerings. So sometimes when we’re reading these stories about offerings, what he was doing was, and he literally says, we’re taking this off for the saints in Jerusalem. So I’ve been heavily affected by the terrorism and the people that have been severely wounded by the act of terrorism in Israel specifically. And this is before October 7th, as you see, I started in 2007,
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And
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So God was putting it on my heart too. I’m at a dinner with some friends, man, you bring a whole bunch of stuff back me right now, stuff that I, that’s my specialty, man. Go ahead. Let it rip man. Make for a good podcast. I realize this kind of is a full circle thing. Some of this stuff is God is restoring some of this passion and vision to really start push through with this.
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But I was with a bunch of friends, we’re playing some game, and the question was like, if you could start something, what would it be? And out of my mouth, I’m like, well, I’d start a charity for orphans and widows and victims of suicide bombers in Israel. And I have this thing where, okay, if I say I’m going to do something, then I do it. That just came out of your mouth, just came out of my mouth. And I’m like, yeah, that is what I would do. Why am I not doing? Oh, okay. So I went down and got my articles incorporation and stuff like that, and I just began to really pursue, I’d go to churches and like, Hey, can I speak here and just raise some support? And it was a very bizarre thing because the first year raised $10,000. And what was different about Abraham’s promise from other charities or what is different is the proceeds at the time, the majority of the money does go to the actual victims and suicide bombers and stuff like that.
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But I’m getting direct contact with the families, their personal bank accounts, their wiring, it directed to them. So all of the money is legit, the wire transfer’s legit, and at the same time there’s not paying a bunch of overhead or paying a whole bunch of employees and stuff like that. So it was a very, very interesting time because the vision was to one, build a bridge to the believers in Jerusalem, but as also build a bridge to the non-believing Jewish community. And also it wasn’t just for Jewish people, I mean if Arab people were hurt anybody. But the whole point was it was specifically in Yeshua, Jesus name. So it wasn’t in the name of the quote organization, it was in the name of Yeshua Jesus. And that point was because when it says if we’re believers we are grafted into Israel, we’re grafted into, that’s what it means to be a son of Abraham.
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Because if you belong to Christ as Galatians five says, then you belong to Abraham Abraham’s seed. And so with that family dynamic that I was trying to understand, I looked at all of the conferences that I go to, I would look at all of the charities and organizations and it’s like, we’re going to Africa and we should, we’re going to India, we should and we should, but no one is going to, why is the Jews always being left out? So it wasn’t one over the other, but I’ve always been the guy that doesn’t, even Paul says this, he doesn’t want to build upon another man’s foundation. So I always looked at the guy that I was always the guy that what is not being done? What is being overlooked and what’s being missing? So that’s kind of the core.
Brad Burrow (00:15:20):
There’s got to be some great stories mean. So you’ve been able to interact and talk with some of the people that you’ve helped with that?
Jason Porter (00:15:28):
Well, yeah. I mean, it’s been several years because the first few families that we helped, it was single mothers. One had five kids, and so you’re going to get me in trouble here. I take integrity seriously, and I don’t want to just take people’s money because I can. What was happening was my vision was to have a family of the month so it wouldn’t be a welfare system where it’s just the same people over and over again. And then the second thing was, as Romans one says, the gospels of the Jew first. And also I wanted to start with the believer, but also build able to bridge and the non-believer. And what I noticed was thousands and thousand dollars were kind of going to the same people, and I kind of had some promises and Okay, we’ll connect you with this person and this person.
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And that never happened. So literally what I did, I literally stopped taking money. People were still offering money. I’m like, I stopped taking money and I actually wind up one of my pastor friends who was a major donor, I actually connected him with a Jewish believer, a friend of mine who actually is in Israel. And so he still comes in town and they still are connected there because I was kind of like, Hey, I want to be a good steward of the favor God gives me, but also with the money. So I believe it was about the first few years where the money’s going out, and then I’m just like, well, it’s kind of the same people. So I kind of wanted to hold off and wait. So literally for the last, I don’t know, over deck or so, I’ve been keeping the bank account open until God is saying, okay, it’s time to start. That’s why I’m saying the timing of this question. I was just talking to someone a few months ago about, I think God is telling me I’m going to need to start.
Brad Burrow (00:17:30):
It seems
Jason Porter (00:17:30):
Like, which October 7th was the confirmation of Yes. That now definitely is the time to
Brad Burrow (00:17:39):
Vitalize. Here’s a little side story. We just did a video project with Merrill Eisenhower, and Merril is the great grandson of Dwight Eisenhower.
Jason Porter (00:17:50):
Okay.
Brad Burrow (00:17:50):
So we had been contacted to shoot kind of an on-screen thing for him that they were going to play when he walked up on stage for the Walk of life, which is at Auschwitz. Yeah, Auschwitz. So I ended up, so we did the video project, and to get paid, I needed to talk to this guy named Greg from Israel. So I got to talking to him about some of the things he lives in Israel, and the night before they had to go into the basement, the sirens are going off, their rockets coming in. I’m like, what is that? He goes, well, it’s just part of our day-to-day life here. We go into the basement and most of the time we’re okay. It would be a direct hit for us for something to happen to us. But I mean, imagine living like that every day. That
Jason Porter (00:18:46):
Was the first family that actually we helped. She actually had the key to the bomb shelter. And you’re sitting there going like, oh yeah, that’s like a normal thing.
Brad Burrow (00:18:57):
Yeah, that’s just day-to-day life for
Jason Porter (00:18:59):
Them. They have bomb shelters. So that was the other thing. I think the American Western Gentile Church is really desensitized to the rest of the world in general, but specifically what’s actually going on with what’s going on in the land. And I think it’s a shame that a lot of this stuff gets politicized as it relates to the Israel Palestine thing. But I believe there is really a biblical precedent of the standard we’re supposed to set as it relates to loving all people, but at the same time, not using that as an excuse to politicize or make it about who’s better or who’s worse. Just be obedient to
Brad Burrow (00:19:38):
Serve. So tell me about your church. We have a mutual friend, David Washington. He’s a big part of my testimony too. I don’t know if you know that whole story or not, but God brought him into my life, me and Tracy. And he was part of the reason that we came to Christ that whole, I mean all the stuff that was orchestrated for us. So he’s been a really good friend of mine. I love him. He’s just a great person and wants to always help everybody. Agreed. Really awesome. So I think he might’ve brought you here to our facility a few years ago, if I remember right. But tell me about the church.
Jason Porter (00:20:45):
So before the camera started rolling, you were talking about you started, moved here in 2008, started 97, but you moved here in 2008. And that’s actually when we started one C 2, 2, 3, 1, C, two, two started on three two, 2008. And this kind of does go back to the fish tv, fish ministries era because what was happening was we would go to these youth conferences, we’d hold these camps and kids are getting saved filled with the Holy Spirit. God is moving, and the music was cranking and it was like, oh man. And then we’d leave. And then when you come back a couple months later, come back to years and the kids are still struggling and stuff like that, or they’ve kind of backslid whatever.
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And I started thinking, I was like, well, why can’t there be a place where that level of intercession, that level of discipleship, that level is all the time. And the spirit of God was like, you mean a church? What it’s supposed to? And I was, I was being convicted about a consistent place where that just regardless who comes or who doesn’t, that’s always going to be the standard instead of making it about the event, because that’s what happens sometimes we worship the event. It’s like, oh, this is a special thing, so we’ll come out and then we’ll really give it all versus, well, Paul gave it all the time. So the disciples gave it all the time. So it wasn’t just one event, it was the actual person that was who the event was supposed to be for. That’s what you’re supposed to really pour your heart out for.
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So with all that said, I come back, I come off the road, and God was dealing to me about a local church. I was transitioning. I was at one church for actually six years because I actually was 17 when I got born Again, that’s the other irony about my testimony is I grew up in the quote Bible belt where everybody unquote was a Christian, but no one was really showing me the gospel. I mean, all the quote people that were, everyone believed in God, but no one was really telling me what the Bible actually said. And so I got to a place where when I was 14, 15 where I was in mental hospitals, group homes, I was suicidal, but I was at Trinity Lutheran Hospital off of 31st. I was pretty psychologically messed up. And so I remember the last group home I was, no, I’m sorry, actually the Trinity Lutheran Hospital, the last psych ward I was in. And I remember this is all connected by the way. I’m trying to
Brad Burrow (00:23:45):
No, you’re good.
Jason Porter (00:23:46):
On a random tangent, I remember I was in a room and there’s acoustic guitar there and there’s a piano. And I remember my parents had put me in piano lessons, but I wasn’t really paying attention to it. I really loved guitar players. But like Hendricks Prince, I was really into those types of satriani. And at the time, there’s a guy named Greg Howe that a lot of people don’t know about Greg Howe, but he’s ridiculous. With all that said, I was a wannabe musician and music didn’t ever really make sense as far as bass cleft, treble, cleft and putting ’em together. I could do one or the other. And I remember in that room, this is when I was 16 years old, and I remember putting my, excuse me, 15. I remember putting my hands on the piano for the first time playing both the bass and the trouble at the same time and playing chords.
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And it just started making sense. And I remember saying to myself, oh, well, this is something I can live for. I’ll just do this for the rest of my life. And fast forward a year later, still hunting down that dream. That’s when I’m 16 years old. And when I was adopted, my mom said, listen, there’s heaven. There’s hell. Pray this prayer. Our father who was in heaven, how be your name, your kingdom come here will be done. So make me pray that prayer all the time, and I would pray it every night before I go to bed. I had no idea what I was saying or who I was talking to. So when I was 16, this was a year after the music revelation. I’m doing my ritual and I stop in the middle of my prayer and I said, wait a minute. There’s God and there’s Jesus. Who’s Jesus. I’m literally saying this out loud. So a year later when I was 17, so this is May 6th, 1990, which is so my spiritual birthday is coming up next.
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So that’s why I’m saying the timing of this is really interesting. I had a friend who used to pick on me in high school, invited me to this church. I’m sitting and listening to the youth pastor and I’m thinking to myself, he’s just got the Bible open and everything he’s saying. I’m like, yeah, that’s true. I just believe it. And I wasn’t even born again yet. I took off all my Sundays and I started tithing. I was just like, oh, okay. I guess this is something else I do. And so on May 6th, 1990 Sunday, he took me home after church, opened up the Bible again and said, have you ever actually received Jesus? Did you know he died for your sins? Did he rose again? I’m like, I’ve never. And he’s like, well, are you ready to accept it? I’m like, yeah. So in my room wasn’t a whole bunch of people, wasn’t the lights.
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And coming down an altar call, I got born again in my room off of 91 0 7 Larson, right down the street, and I was 17 years old. So with all that said, that’s when I said, oh, so therefore I take this music and I tell people about Jesus with this music. So wasn’t, I’m going to be a worship leader, I’m going to be a pastor. It wasn’t ever about titles. It’s like, what are my gifts? Okay, well, if this is a gift, then this is the gift that I use to tell people about Jesus. So that’s why when the fish ministry thing took place six, seven years later and we’re going to all these conferences and I’m still okay, so we’re using the music to tell people about Christ, praise God. But I started really getting a burden for the sheep. And as John 20 says, when Jesus is talking to Peter, he says, do you love me? Feed my sheep.
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I bleed evangelism when it comes to apologetics. So a lot of what people don’t understand about all the Hebrew and all this stuff, it’s not about impressing people. It’s about I want to know what the Bible says so that when these quote unquote cults and all these other people try and manipulate scripture, I can actually defend the word. And that’s where everything about me is actually evangelism. And so I’ll go out to the lost. My first six years, 90% of my friends were all unsaved because I was just always witnessed to ’em. And I’d be at the parties with them Saturday night, they’d be drinking, I’d drive ’em home, whatever, and then they’d come to church me on Sunday. So that’s what I’ve always done as far as evangelism was evangelism. But when he hit me with, he took me on the road and showed me how his sheep were also suffering, that they weren’t actually being built up because it was event to event, excitement. Excitement, but there’s no depth, there’s no foundation. And that is when it’s like, okay, I came off the road and I started serving at a local body and I was a praise and worship leader At the time, it was the next Christian center, now I think it’s city center or something that
Brad Burrow (00:28:27):
Seventh.
Jason Porter (00:28:28):
And so I was in both of, I was in the youth ministry, I was in the main singing, the choir, whatever, just serving. And that is when I was still struggling with, okay, ministry music. Which one? Which one? So I moved, this sounds like it’s a long road to get there. So in 2000, because of all my fish, tv, fish ministry connections, I moved to Nashville because that’s where the Christian music industry is based out.
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So I was not to be dropping names, but I was hanging out with everybody who’s who. There’s labels that were meet with the a r guys and stuff like that. And people were trying to, and I was like, okay, well if this is what I’m supposed to do and stuff like that, and at the end of the day, God confirmed you’re not supposed to do that. And so one year later move back here and I’m still trying to figure out, well, what does this actually look like? And something is kind of confirming, I think you’re going to be starting a congregation. And with all that said, kicking and screaming, it took seven years from 2001 to 2008 where I’m like, okay, I’m called to not disa, evangelize, but also feed the sheep, but not give them food that is not going to sustain them because I don’t believe it’s about what you can get.
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It’s about what you can keep. And what I’ve noticed is when Jesus is speaking, he’s telling them to do something that a lot of people still ignore, abide, abide, abide, abide, abide, remain, remain, remain, remain. And a lot of people, they just want what I call Santa Claus, Jesus get their fixed, but there’s no repentance, there’s no foundation, there’s no truth. So they get the feel good, whatever they need, and God is merciful, he’ll still bless ’em. But when it comes to the trial, because that’s what he says in Matthew 13, when the test comes, that’s when they fall away. Why? Because they have no root. So when you were talking earlier about some of the depth and the things you get, it was not by comparison or saying, oh, I’m going to be deeper than this person. It was I understood after 20 years, the issue is always roots. And if you don’t have roots, it doesn’t matter how anointed you are, it doesn’t matter how gifted you are. If you’re still not rooted and grounded in the word of God, then you’re just setting yourself up for failure.
Brad Burrow (00:30:59):
Boy, that is so true. And how do you grow? It’s so much working out lifting weights. You can’t grow without breaking those muscles. Resistance down.
Jason Porter (00:31:12):
Right. Resistance. Tearing down. Yeah,
Brad Burrow (00:31:13):
Resistance. Right. And that’s the thing. That’s when I know I hear people talk about, well become a Christian, everything is great and everything’s going to, you’re go through some stuff, but you’re going to come out better on the other side. But man, sometimes, I mean, I think God has a way of taking you to the breaking point. And I don’t know if it’s him taking, but we get to the breaking point and then he’s there
Jason Porter (00:31:43):
And he brings you back. So I say it a little differently. I don’t say he takes you to the break point. I say He breaks you.
Brad Burrow (00:31:48):
Okay? Yeah.
Jason Porter (00:31:49):
The whole
Brad Burrow (00:31:50):
Point
Jason Porter (00:31:50):
Of the gospel is that you’re supposed to be crucified. Galatians 5 24 says that those that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh and the passion and the desire. And what happens is even when Jesus says, if you follow me, you take up your cross. And so what happens is people that they take the easy road, which is the road of less resistance, where everything by the gospel is just dying to yourself. And I had to learn multiple times what it mean to be crucified when it came to my idols, when it came to the things that I had to really give over to the Lord, because I like what you said as far as a lot of people preach, oh, you get saved and everything’s great. And so you still reap what you sow. So you can have a relationship with God, but if you don’t understand discipline and respect, that’s not going to bring you closer to him.
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It’s going to make you farther away from him and farther than other people. So I had got saved when I was 17, and I’m like, wow, the literally I’m in, the sun was shining. This is going to be a great day. And all of a sudden after I get saved and I’m quote unquote now living for Jesus, that’s when I get kicked out of the house. Why? Because I had treated my parents like crap. I had sewn all this other stuff. So ultimately I’m thinking, oh, well wait a minute. Everything was supposed to be great. I got saved. And then I understood what God was doing. He was delivering me from entitlement, and he was also teaching me about consequences. And so the Bible is very clear whom the Lord loves because we talk about love. We want love, but he says whom he loves, he
Brad Burrow (00:33:29):
Disciplines,
Jason Porter (00:33:30):
Disciplines corrects. So if you have, I would say compassion without correction is just corruption. So you can be merciful, you can be kind, you can say love, you can say all these words, but if there’s still not the discipline aspect to actually help bring you to the place of humility, because a lot of our stuff, it’s a pride issue.
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A lot of our rebellion, it’s a pride issue. And so Jesus has set the example by showing us what humility looks like, but then it’s our turn to do that. And the one thing that we have to do is humble ourselves to the process of his discipline because he does the discipline, not because he’s mean and angry, it’s because he wants us to be his son. And so I had to learn by sleeping on the next thing. I know my parents did. I’m going to say this, my parents did nothing wrong. And I mean that not out of that they’re perfect. I’m saying they did discipline me the right way. They did give me standards and things that now I totally appreciate respect. But at the time I thought they’re the worst people ever. Okay? And now I understand they actually were doing exactly what God wanted them to do, the way that he wanted them to do it. And that’s why I understand the balance of love, and I really hope that more people receive his full love. Because when I understood, oh, wait a minute, I’m not sleeping out on the street tonight because my parents are mean, it’s because I was mean to them. It’s not because God doesn’t love me. I didn’t love God. And that’s where God sort rebuild and reshaped my character in the image of Christ.
Brad Burrow (00:35:16):
Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
Jason Porter (00:35:19):
Now? Do? Yeah, now I do. And it happened where God had to deal with me again about my pride and all those things. And about I would say five or six years later, my mom has some health problems and she was in the hospital. So because I was just honestly just entitled and just ungrateful, and so I distanced myself, my parents, they didn’t believe in me and my music and the ministry, whatever, and that wasn’t true. And so I remember my dad gets ahold of me and says, your mom’s in the hospital. And so I’m like, okay, I’ll go. So he picks me up. And this was a very supernatural thing because I’ll tell you how the spirit of God, when it’s really the spirit of God works. I remember I’m sitting in the past passenger seat, my dad’s driving, we’re going to the hospital, and all of a sudden, the Spirit Lord started convicting me about all of the things that I took for granted, all the things that I did wrong and all the things that I falsely accused them of because projection with that. And I broke down in the middle of the car and just started telling my dad how far I was and tell him how much I loved him. And God just really just cleansed me of that. What a moment. And that’s when God started rebuilding a real relationship with my parents. And so, yeah,
Brad Burrow (00:36:49):
How did your dad handle that?
Jason Porter (00:36:51):
My dad is, he’s like, okay, good.
Brad Burrow (00:36:54):
That’s got to be out.
Jason Porter (00:36:56):
Here’s what I think. Another thing that I learned, there’s a story about the prodigal son and I have issues with the way the prodigal son is taught because once God forgives you, he forgives you, but they miss why he forgave them. It said, the prodigal son said, I’ve sinned against you. I’ve sinned against heaven. He acknowledged his
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Mistakes,
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And afterwards the father was not bringing up his mistakes. The father was not condemning him. The father was not like, Hey, my son was dead. Now he’s alive. Praise God. But what happens is the only thing gets preaches. Look at how the father loved him, but they ignore the process. They worship the product, which is we just all kind of forget. And so what God had to teach me was my dad never. And my mom, they will talk about how proud they are of me, whatever. They don’t bring up how bad of a child I was. But that’s the only part people hear. They don’t know. It was after I acknowledged I had sinned against them because God, and why do people not acknowledge? Because they’re prideful.
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And
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The Bible says God rejects the proud,
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He
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Gives grace to the humble. And I think that was why the way God discipled me was always this issue of balance and biblical love, not the pagan love. And I think that has stuck with me and many, many times when I’ve been kind of challenged on that standard
Brad Burrow (00:38:32):
Man, our society today, you think about, I mean, we’re so full of pride about me. What can I do to make myself better? What can I do for me today? That kind of thing.
Jason Porter (00:38:45):
It’s everywhere. And that’s who I was. So that’s why when people think that maybe sometimes, oh, he’s being harsh or he’s being intense, I’m loving you. I love myself. What I’m doing is I’m saying, oh, I did that. I’m not condemning you and saying, oh, you need to be. I would never do. I’m saying, oh, I know what that was, but I know why I continued in that pattern behavior because no one was actually challenging me to repent and be corrected that no one actually was, one was actually following through on the
Brad Burrow (00:39:16):
Correction. All right, so I want to switch gears. This is awesome though. This is really great. So what is your process for breaking down scripture? So let’s say that you’re going to speak, we just went through the Passover feast and all that the other day, but all of the scripture that you broke down, somebody that’s wanting to study the Bible, they’re wanting to learn. I have a little bit of a process where I can like, what is that word? Why is that word there? And I’ll go look up the Hebrew version and see what that word means and what do you do?
Jason Porter (00:39:53):
Okay, so I have a thing called three Cs, category context, consensus. So you said Passover. So the category is Passover. So if we’re talking about Passover, then we’re not talking about baseball. And so what a lot of people do, I notice when they’re like, oh, well, there’s just so much stuff in the Bible. Well, not if you’re just talking about the category. So that’s why in Matthew five, Jesus is talking about murder, he’s talking about adultery, he’s talking about several things. So those are multiple categories. So I’m going to, you’re good. I’m going to go through the first thing I ask Holy Spirit in Yahu his name, what is the category you want me to preach or minister on? And this is what has now turned into series because it used to be, I have a random sermon here, random sermon here, but now it’s like, oh, there’s a category and so now I need to go to every time the Bible is talking about this category in the context.
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So now I’m finding what is the context of that category? The consensus is from Genesis to Revelation. So my process, the reason why it takes days and weeks is because I go through the entire bio and I want to know out of all of the verses that are about that specific category. So that’s why you’ll find a verse in Matthew, or you’ll find a verse in Exodus, you’ll find a verse here. It seems like it’s all over the place, but not if you’re talking about category, how revelation actually works. God is usually saying the same thing in just multiple different places. So what has challenged me be disciplined with that was like, okay, if I leave out one of those three areas, then the sermon is going to suffer. So it’s a consensus. So it’s like one verse of scripture, but it’s not a real consensus because I haven’t really combined even the Bible when it talks about the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established. So that’s why if you look on the sermon notes, which you’ll notice before there’s Jason summary, there’s a, there’s three verses. I’m trying to say no, this is the category and it’s specifically in context with this category.
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So my summary is based upon the consensus of these verses, not the other way around. And that’s what happens is most people are like, I believe this, and therefore they try and find, lemme support this a verse. Yes, yes. And so it’s backwards versus I draw my conclusions based of after I’ve done a consensus of all of the topic, okay, why is it that we do Passover and not Easter? Because the consensus of scripture from Genesis revelation is not only is there not Easter in the Bible, but the consensus is Christ was crucified during Passover. So I don’t play the political game Catholic conservative or I don’t do that. I’m saying, if you believe in Jesus, then you are now called to believe what Jesus believes. So that means, what did Jesus, I don’t care what the Pope would say, I don’t care what Martin Luther would say, what would Jesus say about his death bur resurrection. And I go to the Bible to get those answers.
Brad Burrow (00:43:07):
Yeah. When did you figure that out? There had to be a light bulb moment for you when you’re like, okay, this is how I need to do this.
Jason Porter (00:43:16):
It’s different. I would say definitely the evangelistic aspect of my nature was connected to a lot of the cults, a lot of the false doctrine that is going around right now. I would try and analyze why are they successful? And I realized the reason why they’re successful because one, in some cases, all of those three Cs are missing. So they’re deceiving people. They took a verse, they cherry picked a verse, but there was not a consensus of scripture. So there’s a lot of things that people do when it comes to the scripture, especially if you talk about love. Well, he said, see, or I’ll take the favorite one that everyone loves. God said, don’t judge. Right?
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Yeah.
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Category is judge, okay, let’s go from the beginning. And then he says, because whatever measure you use, it’ll come back to you. So take the beam out of your eyes, so you’ll see clearly. Then in the same check, this is still Matthew seven, he’s like, beware of false profits. You’ll know them by their fruit. You’ll discern judge them by their fruits. So the consensus, then you go to John 7 24, he that judges, judges righteously. Then you go to one Corinthians two, he that spiritual judges all things. And I’m starting to say, oh, category, the reason why people misrepresent what judgment talks about Jesus is talking about if you’re a hypocrite, don’t judge Jesus. Talking about hypocritical judgment, there’s a nature that’s involved in that. So when it came down to the cults, what I noticed with whether they’re the ones that deny that Jesus is the son of God or the ones that justify, well, we were talking about all the controversial stuff,
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Justify
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Homosexuality, the things that justify certain things that are not biblical. Well, how do they do that? Because they cherry pick or isolate a certain verse and then they ignore the consensus of scripture. So by default, I had to learn how not to be a hypocrite. So what I’m doing is I’m trying not to do what they were doing. So if I have a category, I’m trying not to be cherry picking just because of my own bias and preferences, and this is what I call exegetical integrity. And so everything that I try and do at the end of the day when accuse people of whatever, accuse me of whatever, when they get done with the accusations or when they get done with the synopsis, I’m going to say, now where is that in the Bible? Okay, so how does this a clear exegetical consensus in the Bible?
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And so that was a discipline that I by default had to start learning because I just saw that’s where all of the confusion and the manipulation was taking place. And I wanted to, after I repented of that, because again, we all do that, we’ve all done that. Then I’m like, okay, I’m going to be better at not being a hypocrite when it comes to ex integrity, because I really got discouraged at how all these Christians say they believe the Bible. And then I would say stuff and they were confused. And then I realized why they were confused, because what I was saying was in the Bible, and what they were saying was not, and I’m like, oh, Jason, now don’t you do that. Make sure if you’re going to have an opinion or if you’re going to have a people argue it out. That’s what Acts 15 was. It was a bunch of Jews arguing about what to do with the Gentiles. There’s nothing wrong with that, but they’re arguing what the scriptures. And I think that’s what happens where a lot of times, a lot of the unnecessary confusion is because people did not give the same diligence to the word of God as they gave to everything else.
Brad Burrow (00:47:04):
So you got to be really, really up to
Jason Porter (00:47:06):
Speed on the word, don’t you? Yeah. You can’t. I mean, when I look at your operation, I know that one of the things I can say is, I don’t see you cutting corners.
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And I tell people all the time when it comes to your faith, your spirituality, it’s not about your ability, it’s about your application. And what I got, the other thing that I didn’t want to be a hypocrite in was I knew how many hours I took when I was practicing, when I’m practicing guitar, when I was producing records, I knew how detailed and specific I was, and I realized when it came to the word of God, a lot of people don’t have that same discipline. They don’t have that same standard. And back to I was just trying not to be a hypocrite. So I made a commitment to put the word of God first before I leave my house. If I have not prayed, read the word, I don’t leave my house when I do anything. That is what I call kingdom, kingdom priorities. I need to make sure that I’m putting the word of God first.
Brad Burrow (00:48:10):
Yeah. Yeah. That’s amazing. So I wanted to ask you this. If you could in one or two minutes, just tell me who Jesus is, who is Jesus, because I wanted to ask you this question because I think you’re going to have not a different take, but I want to hear your take on who he really was. He comes out of nowhere and the Jews didn’t accept him, dies on the cross. We see the apostles, what they’ve done, and they go out. And even what he said on the cross, and he says to John, he says, take care of my mother. Who is he?
Jason Porter (00:49:02):
So that everyone knows the foundational things. Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of the living God who died on the cross for the sins of the world, who rose again, but didn’t just rise again, ascended to the right hand of the Father. He’s a soon and coming king of the Jews and king of the nations who’s going to return to Jerusalem, set up his earthly kingdom for the millennial for a thousand years, and then there will be a new heaven and earth. He is the founder and author and finisher of our faith. But when you said I’d have a different take, I think one of the things that maybe is included is understanding what it means for him to also be the word of God. So this confirms not just his Messiah hood, but also his deity and his revelation. So the dva, Yahweh, the word of Yahweh, when you read John in the beginning was the word, okay?
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The word was with God. The word was God. So he was in the beginning with God. Now, before you get to verse 14 where it says, the word became flesh and tabernacle among us, what is the word that became flesh? The word that was God. So that means God tabernacled among us. So when we say Jesus is Lord, and it just sounds like a saying that people just kind of rattle off, Jesus is Lord. Well, when you understand what Lord actually means from y Vahe, whether you say Yahweh, which is what? That’s my preference term, Yahweh, that is the Vahe is contraction.
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It encapsulates a lot of things. Yahweh literally comes from this kind of Hebrew verb structure, ve and ihi, which means was, is and is to come. So in revelations, a lot of people sing the song Holy, holy, holy is Lord God Almighty, who was, is and is to come. That literally is all said. When you say Yahweh, when you say Yahweh, you’re talking about the God who was and is and his come. That means he’s the self existing deity. So therefore, when I don’t just look at Jesus as my savior, I don’t just look at him as my Lord, I look at him as the entire reality of my existence. That’s why it changes my standards, my convictions, because I understand existence from the self existing being means I’m subject to being judged by his existence, no one else’s. So therefore, Jesus can’t just be a regular angel or Michael the archangel.
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Therefore, Jesus just can’t be a prophet. He is the word of Yahweh. So when you get into Devar, there’s many applications to that word var. So why would they call him the word of Yahweh? Because devar can actually mean thing. So what they’re saying is it’s Yahweh, but it’s a thing. It’s something of Yahweh because they understood that no one could see the Father, but they clearly understood it was Yahweh. So when John starts off, he does not say in the beginning was the one who loved our souls, the kindest, best friend I’ll ever have. He makes it clear the word, and every Jew understood was the word. And so that’s the other reason why I take a little different position than most people, because even when people say, well, the Jews didn’t receive them, no, there were some Jews that didn’t receive them because the Jew that wrote John did receive them, and he was talking to what all of the Jews who did, and the Jews that didn’t receive them is because they didn’t understand what it meant to be the word of God in flesh.
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So what makes me worship and serve Jesus is because I don’t have a religion called Christianity that started 2000 years ago. I have a God who’s always existed. And so when Paul and all the prophets, they don’t say, Hey, we’re starting this new religion called Christianity. They’re like, this is what Moses and the prophets and all wrote. This is the same the God of our fathers, the God of whose father, the God of Israel, the God of the Jews. So that’s why it’s important for me to make that distinction between the Jews who believe in Jesus and the Jews who don’t, because I’m understanding the sacrifice that the Jews who did believe in Jesus, so us Gentiles today could talk about Jesus is important to recognize that this is God’s love and God’s reality wrapped together at the same time.
Brad Burrow (00:53:33):
Yeah, that’s amazing. Love it. What do you think about’s happening? What’s happening in our world today? I mean, we talked about the October 7th thing a little bit, and I mean, in times are coming, it feels more close than ever right now. What is your take on kind of what’s happening in society and the world? I mean, it’s kind of an amazing time.
Jason Porter (00:53:58):
Yeah, it’s amazing time if you’re on the right team, right? Yeah. And I would say the reason why I think the message of repentance of faith in Yahweh Jesus is more necessary than ever is because we start off, a lot of these series have started off with a sobering revelation, Matthew seven, where Jesus said, many will say to me, not a few, not some Lord. Lord, have we not prophesied the name Castle Devils? And he said, I’ll depart from you that work iniquity. And when you read revelations and you’re not distracted by the seven headed dragon or you’re not distracted by, what does that mean? All this things that they try to make unnecessarily mysterious.
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It’s the same God who judged Sodom and kimura. It’s the same God that will judged even Israel, and it’s the same God who’s going to judge the world to return because over and over he’s pleading with mankind to get it right and repent. And what it says is, but they still did not repent of their murderers, their sorceries, their witchcraft, their fornication, their idolatry. And that’s the thing that is kind of making me sober up more and stand on the word that needs to be preached, because all I’m seeing over and over is there’s always been, whether you’re talking about October 7th, we could talk about Islam or we could talk about all these other things that get me apologetically excited. This is another reason why I read the Quran twice and took Hebrew and all those stuff because I’m ready to deal with that. But it’s all the same thing. They’re rejecting the one who was and isn’t is to come. They’re rejecting the message of grace and repentance, and they’re rejecting the love of God that was shed on ca tree so that they can have eternal life.
Brad Burrow (00:56:05):
Yeah. Yeah. So what’s your personal goal? Obviously we got a pretty good idea of that, but what gets you up every day?
Jason Porter (00:56:24):
Well, I would say the message of one C two two has not changed for me, but the level of meaning has changed. So the message I’ve determined not to know, one Corinthians two, verse two, I’ve determined not to know anything but Jesus Christ and him crucified. So what gets me up every day is because I want to know him and him crucified. What drives me is not just me knowing him, but also making him known. So when Jesus resurrected and they call it the great commission and notice, he’s not saying, I just want you to be nice to one another. I just want you to take care of the poor. He says, go make disciples. So what I’m saying, making him known, it’s not just making disciples. I take it a little step further to the Paul’s equation, one Timothy to disciples who make, he says, those who are faithful commit to other faithful men who will be able to teach others also. So I’ve kind of made this phrase, I’m not just interested in making disciples. I’m interested in making disciples who make disciples.
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It’s a different sacrifice. It’s a different standard because again, I’m not interested in you just talking about how much you appreciate how much I know that’s not doing anything or people acknowledging whatever my gift is. That’s not doing anything. If you are not letting the word of God the same word of God, that’s transformed and challenged me. If you’re not letting it do the same thing to you so that you can make other disciples, that’s why it includes evangelism. But then after they’re saved, they still now need to mature. And I think what I’m trying to do is I tell people as well that sometimes people think that I’m talking about perfection. When I’m really talking about correction, repentance, when I say it’s just correction, we all sin. We make mistakes. When you’re prideful, you refuse to correct those mistakes.
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Right?
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When you’re humble, you just say, okay, God, thank you for letting me know this is wrong. Now I want to do whatever I can to make it right. That’s the maturity that brings you into the disciple that God wants you, and that’s the example that I want to set for other people not look at me, do everything right. It’s look at me when I do something wrong and make myself available for every metric and opportunity for repentance and to make it right.
Brad Burrow (00:59:05):
That is missing so much in our society today. Don’t you think? Correct. I mean, people don’t want to admit when they’ve done something wrong. That is true. It’s rampant. I mean, you see it every day,
Jason Porter (00:59:16):
And this is why the discipleship matters. You have a dynamic this, you got people that don’t want to admit when they’ve done something wrong, but then you also have people that refuse to acknowledge what actually is wrong. So if you don’t have a biblical understanding of, actually some people still don’t think lying is wrong, some people still don’t think fornication. There’s certain things where you also have to start with, this is good, this is evil. So once you have that down, then you have to say, okay, now I need to be humble enough to say, okay, I did do that. Now I need to repent and let the grace of God, the love of God cleanse me and keep it moving. I’m not interested in beating up people on, I’ve got 17 years of the secrets of men in my cranium and a lot of stuff, and when people tell me stuff, horrible stuff, I’m not interested in drilling them about, oh, this is wrong.
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This is, oh, you’re just the worship of sinner. I’m like, okay, thank you for being honest. Now how are we going to correct that? How are we going get past that? That’s what’s what I’m trying to do. But I found the reason why God has got me stuck in this discipleship mode is either people are refusing to acknowledge what actually is evil, step one. Then step two, if they are knowing it’s evil, they’re refusing to humble themselves and repent of the evil. So I can never get to the step three, which is then you start going to make disciples. That’s kind of what gets me up every day is like how much more of God’s spirit, God’s love, God’s power and his anointing, can I be anointed with to teach the word, which that’s where the power is. The power is still in the transformative word of God where people say, I’m ready to eat and I’m ready to let this food of the Word of God actually change me to do the will of God.
Brad Burrow (01:01:00):
What do you see? One C, two, two, what do you want your vision? I mean, Jesus could be back any day, but what does it look like?
Jason Porter (01:01:10):
Well, with the foundation of disciples that make disciples, that means these disciples, they’ve got their self locked in. They understand humility, they understand repentance, they understand the love of God, but now they’re ready to start evangelizing. Now they’re also ready to do prayer. One of the things that I’ve tried to do several years, and I’ll try it again, is Jesus said his house was supposed to be a house of prayer, and I know there’s a lot of dust up recently about certain things that happened with a certain organization, but before decades ago, I remember I was talking to someone and they kind of had some criticisms about this certain prayer movement and stuff like that, and I just heard the spirit of the Lord say, well, if the churches were praying the way they were supposed to be praying, there wouldn’t be a need for these quote prayer movements, because Jesus said his house was supposed to be a house of prayer.
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I take, it’s not just reading the word of God, but I also take prayer also seriously because that’s the power that activates the word of God in the agreement, and so I’m not just looking at just telling people what the scriptures say. I’m looking at also a prayer movement that activates the word of God, that creates the real discipleship. So we take care of the widows, we take care of the orphans, we take care of the poor. That should be default, but at the end of the day, go make disciples, and that can’t happen without the anointing of the Holy Spirit, the power of God that comes through prayer. So going forward eventually, once God raises up the actual disciples who make disciples, I’m still going to fight again for another 24 hour prayer, prayer movement where people are praying, coming in agreement with the will of God and the word of God to see more souls say,
Brad Burrow (01:02:55):
Yeah, amazing. Have you done that? Have you done a 24 hour prayer at church?
Jason Porter (01:03:00):
Yeah, I actually did.
Brad Burrow (01:03:02):
How did that
Jason Porter (01:03:03):
Go? If you look on the, so here’s what I’ve found.
Brad Burrow (01:03:08):
It’s not easy to do.
Jason Porter (01:03:09):
You know what? It is easy to do If you want someone to give you money for the homeless, oh, you’ll get it. If you want someone to show up for a bake sale, oh, you’ll get it. Whatever. If you want somebody to show up for a Bible setting, discipleship or prayer, that’s a different story. And notice that is where all the power, Jesus spent his time teaching the word and praying when he wasn’t teaching where he is running off to some remote place so he can pray with his father. The last thing Jesus has to do, like, okay, fellas, I’m about to get, it’s about going down. I’m about to get crucified, whatever. Okay, what can we do for you? Jesus, I just want you to just one thing, just pray for me one hour. Couldn’t even do that.
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Yeah,
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So that’s why I understand the warfare. I basically picked the three things that the devil hates to fight, foreign champion, the word of God, discipleship, prayer, intercession, and Israel and the Jews. Okay. Those are the three things that I’ve said. No matter what, I clearly understand why the enemy always attacks these two things, because those were the three elements that brought the gospel and the power, the sustaining power of the gospel on this planet.
Brad Burrow (01:04:19):
You mentioned that. That is very true. It is hard. We had a film project and I had a prayer team for the film project, and we would pray for an hour, and it’s like, that was hard. That was not easy to do. You’re thinking about that, but you could see, I mean, there’s just like this fulfillment after that that you don’t ever have, except in times like that, it felt really good.
Jason Porter (01:04:50):
Two things I never regret, even when I start, you’re like, the two things I never regret is after I pray and after I work out, because I realize prayer is the same thing. It’s a muscle, and so I don’t wake up every morning, just can’t wait to pray. I wake up in the morning, drag myself out of bed, like got to pray, and after I’m done, I’m like, thank God I did that same thing. There’s many times when I go to the gym and I’m like, oh gosh. But afterwards my body’s like, thank you, Jesus.
Brad Burrow (01:05:18):
Yeah. Well that’s great. Well, so I want to go ahead and wrap up. Sure. How would somebody get ahold of you or come to the church? Give me the information on where you guys meeting and what to expect, that kind of
Jason Porter (01:05:33):
Thing. We currently do Saturday nights, so there’s no competition. You could still go to your Sunday services, www.onec2two.com, so the name of the church, one C2 two.com. All the information is there from our Facebook videos or YouTube videos. Also all of the sermon notes. You click on the sermons tab, you can download the PDFs, the sermon notes to all the sermons, the information to the church. We actually, we meet currently at, it’s called the Light KC on Saturday nights. It’s off of 88th and 1 0, 0 0 1, excuse me, west 88th Street, but it’s right behind that QuickTrip because I kind of try to tell on, there’s the library and then the QuickTrip and right behind the QuickTrip, that’s where the church is at.
Brad Burrow (01:06:32):
Yeah, great. Just a few blocks from where you landed.
Jason Porter (01:06:35):
Yep, exactly.
Brad Burrow (01:06:37):
Yeah, exactly. Pretty awesome. Well, I really appreciate you being on here. I always have everybody that’s on the podcast, you got to do the movie voice, and I bet you’re going to be really good at this. So you know who taught me this? Dave Washington, Davis Love Davis Love a third, what I call him, but you have to get up on the mic and say In a world with real media. So you got to give me your audition for the movie voice. Okay. Lemme get
Jason Porter (01:07:06):
In a world with real media.
Brad Burrow (01:07:11):
Pretty good, man. It’s like we got to have Davis love on here so he can I call him Davis Love, that’s like my name. I’ve always called him, but me and him would go back and forth and call say that to you with Davis Love and that kind of thing. So man, I really appreciate you being on and a lot of great information today. It was a lot of fun. So we need to do it again sometime. Sure. Thank you for joining us. This is in a World with Real Media, and you can follow us on all the podcast platforms, share this content with everybody, and we look forward to seeing you next time. Thanks. This has been In a World With Real Media. Thanks for joining us, and be sure to subscribe on iTunes and follow real media on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn, so you never miss an episode.